Comments on: Fedora 13 review

By: John Wolfe

John Wolfe — Sat, 19 Mar 2011 04:10:27 +0000

*It has long held a reputation of being a testbed for features that will eventually make it into Redhat Enterprise Linux, and, therefore, less stable than other desktop-oriented distributions*
I don’t agree with that statement. I have used Linux since around 8 years my first distro was Mandrake 9.0. Tried Mandrake/Mandriva/Suse, Mepis, Ubuntu, Mint and even Vector and counterpart Slackware.
Stayed with Fedora the longest! Starting with f11 now F13. It’s the most stable I’ve had out of all of the mentioned. Hasn’t had not one single X crash.
This is enough to make me convinced Fedora is ready for the desktop.

By: Sasha

Sasha — Tue, 28 Dec 2010 16:04:29 +0000

I use my home computer for browsing, and never have it remember passwords. There is no “physical security” concern with this computer. I just want to log in to check my email, do some light word processing, read blogs, etc. I have nothing whatsoever I care about on it.

I guess someone could break into my house, on an island off Korea, and install a keylogger. Huh.

Auto-login is, definitely, a feature that developers ought to install, although not be default.

By: Ian

Ian — Fri, 23 Jul 2010 10:03:51 +0000

I hope i don’t have to recreate my 3g Internet connection every time start up like ubuntu 9.10. It connect successfully but no Internet activity ie ping if i login for the 2nd time. i need 2 recreate a new 3g connection if i want 2 go online successfully. weird?

By: finid

finid — Sun, 27 Jun 2010 02:14:19 +0000

Auto-login is cool until an untrusted party gains physical access to your PC. Auto-login also makes it very easy to forget your password. That is another way of saying that forcing password-logins ensures that you’ll never forget your password, that you will never find it necessary to write it down, which you are not really supposed to do.

By: 249 designs

249 designs — Sat, 26 Jun 2010 22:02:17 +0000

I liked the auto-login feature. As a home computer, it is a pain to login to everything (keyring, etc…).

By: Ankur SInha

Ankur SInha — Wed, 16 Jun 2010 17:06:47 +0000

not true IMO

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/BetterWebcamSupport

By: Arup

Arup — Wed, 16 Jun 2010 17:02:03 +0000

In that case any distro with even newer kernel would have the advantage, sidux was released few days back and has latest 2.6.34 kernel so I am sure it would have even better support.

By: Meow

Meow — Sun, 13 Jun 2010 17:25:51 +0000

Not if Fedora is using a .33 or 34 kernel and Ubuntu is stuck on .32

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Mon, 07 Jun 2010 19:09:44 +0000

[...] Fedora 13 review Fedora 13 is the latest update to the Redhat-sponsored, RPM-based Linux distribution. It has long held a reputation of being a testbed for features that will eventually make it into Redhat Enterprise Linux, and, therefore, less stable than other desktop-oriented distributions. And I think that’s one reason why Fedora has features that you’ll not find on other desktop-focused distributions. [...]

By: finid

finid — Sun, 06 Jun 2010 20:17:21 +0000

This review, and all the distro reviews on this site, is obviously not for “a professional sysadmin,” and ,therefore, the advice to disable SELinux does not address that crowd. Guru-level users, like yourself (right?), do not need a review of a distro they already use.

So I’m not “whining,” and I already know how to use SELinux. However, for my target audience, I think it’s prudent to steer them away from a tool like SELinux, especially when they do not need it.

By: JimK

JimK — Sun, 06 Jun 2010 19:52:58 +0000

SELinux is hard for most people to wrap their head around. For a simple desktop user who is their own sysadmin, SELinux seems to be more of a pain that a tool. To a professional sysadmin with hundreds or thousands of web facing machines or mission critical servers, SELinux stops security problems by partitioning applications from network ports, users from applications, and root from breaking things. Even if a user managed to exploit a privilege escalation exploit, SELinux won’t allow the transition. A user must KNOW the root password to run newrole and become the secadm to change SELinux settings.

The advise of “turn it off” has been given far to flippantly in the past and it continued here in a review. That puts the reviewer in the “amateur” column of users.

Fedora is the leading edge of what the next generation of RedHat will be. That is certainly the truth. But it is only by pushing that envelope that the entire Linux field progresses.

So quit your whining an learn how to use SELinux. You will benefit and the entire Linux community will move forward. RedHat made the first move to use elf formatted binaries. All the other distros soon followed after they groused for 6 months. Using SELinux will require more than a drive reformat so the adoption cycle is longer. But it puts the system security well above the offerings of Windows and Mac systems. I like knowing that “bad people” can’t do “bad things” to my servers.

By: richard

richard — Sun, 06 Jun 2010 10:30:09 +0000

I like fedora, but for a computer that I use for reading the likes of this, what do you knead a password protected login and then turn off selinux.
This is MY computer, NOT yours, so let me do what I want with it, I want to autologin and turn the firewall off and selinux off, If I wanted all that security I would use windows. HA

By: Arup

Arup — Sun, 06 Jun 2010 09:29:22 +0000

Webcam support is kernel and not distro specific, whatever cams that work in Fedora also work in Ubuntu Lucid.

By: Ankur SInha

Ankur SInha — Sun, 06 Jun 2010 04:42:09 +0000

XBMC can be installed from the RPMFusion repositories for Fedora.

The review request explains why it could not be added to the default Fedora repositories:

http://bugzilla.rpmfusion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1030