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  1. 5

    TanKe

    Chakra is one of those distros that’s being polished every day but breaking it every time. So one step forward one step backward. I think the chakra devs need a new focus again.

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  2. 4

    David

    J.A. Watson at ZDNet is an enthusiastic user of the KDE Netbook Desktop:
    http://www.zdnet.com/kde-netbook-desktop-my-guide-to-configuring-and-using-it-7000001905/

    Finid, rather than the Pardus installer, don’t you think it would be better for Chakra to borrow a graphical installer that supports full-disk encryption, such as Fedora’s or (once it’s stable) the new one from Ubuntu?

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    1. 4.1

      inkane

      First, please note that Kapudan is not an installer, but a post installation helper. It doesn’t do anything about installing, but rather configures already installed software.
      About using another distros installer:
      Unfortunately, it is not possible to use the installer of a different distribution, because installers are highly distribution specific. They have specific code, which e.g. depends on the the package manager used by the distribution and the toolkits they use. However, it is possible to integrate some parts of other distros’ installers into our own installer, Tribe. About full disk encryption: That’s on the todo list, but not the most important thing at the moment. First and foremost some GSOC code needs to be merged upstream, which enables lvm support.

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      1. 4.1.1

        finid

        Is there any part of this article where I suggested that Kapudan is an installer?

        For the record, and I’m not bragging, but I introduced Chakra’s devs to Kaptan, so I know what it’s supposed to do.

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        1. 4.1.1.1

          abveritas

          Not entirely based on facts, Kaptan was mentioned as an example to use, before Chakra split from Arch, in the winter of 2009/2010 (as part of the whole discussion why to split, what goals would be set, what package manager to use, etc.
          For the rest, thanks for the review, very accurate, Chakra cannot be recommended to new Linux users, until full featured Tribe and akabei/GUI for package management are in place.

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        2. 4.1.1.2

          inkane

          @finid: You didn’t, and I didn’t say that you said it. My reply was meant for David who wrote “Pardus installer”. And as one of the Kapudan devs I also know what I’m writing :-).
          Anyways, honest and accurate review of Chakra, thanks for the time you’ve put into it.

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          1. 4.1.1.2.1

            David

            @inkane: Read my comment again — I never said that Kapudan was an installer.

            I was addressing finid’s suggestion in the review that in addition to porting Kapudan from Pardus, you might want to consider porting their installer, YALI, as well, since it’s already much better than Tribe is in its current state. He also suggested that it shouldn’t be too hard for you to add support for full-disk encryption to YALI.

            My question was whether it would be simpler for you to port a different graphical installer that already supports full-disk encryption, such as Fedora’s Anaconda, or the soon-to-released Ubuntu installer. (I know Chakra is an Arch fork, but Sabayon manages to use Anaconda despite their Gentoo base.)

            For a lot of us — especially laptop users — Chakra’s current lack of full-disk encryption in the installer is a deal breaker.

  3. 3

    george

    Hi, and thanks for this review of Chakra! :)
    There’s some info on our wiki (http://www.chakra-linux.org/wiki/index.php/Kapudan) about why the name “Kapudan” was chosen for this tool. As for the security page, it is not currently planned to add configuration for any of the extra programs mentioned there. The buttons allow users to find out more about these tools and configure them themselves. If you see any problems with the wiki pages describing how to use those tools, please just let me know and I’ll try to clarify.

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  4. 2

    Gizella Bodnar

    The “Kapudan Pasha” was a naval title in the Ottoman Empire, means about: admiral, or naval minister.

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  5. 1

    crabbos

    I like Chakra but with every single version I have the same problem…works fine running live but after installation I get a black screen. This is both on my desktop VMWare and full installation on laptop. Fortunately I came across Manjaro so I’m getting some experience with Arch there (and liking it).

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    1. 1.1

      finid

      What’s the graphical package manager on Manjaro like?

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      1. 1.1.1

        David

        Here’s a review of Manjaro with screenshots, including the package manager (last screenshot, under the “Repository” subhead):

        http://mylinuxexplore.blogspot.com/2012/09/manjaro-linux-081-xfce-review-fast.html

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